Illegal Immigration is a minor law issue.

Illegal Immigration is a minor law issue.

I was reading my Sunday paper and in the opinion section (They call it “Perspective” ) I found a an interesting opinion, one was titled “We all Break the Law” by Carl F Dunbar of Blythe.

It’s not really breaking the “law” that so many people get incensed about. More truthfully, it’s what law is being broken and who’s breaking it that brings an uproar.

For instance, right now the most publicized and ranted about thing is what some have called the “swarms of illegal immigrants” in the U.S. Case in point: recent stories about an “illegal” who was stopped for whatever reason and had her car towed away. Bleeding hearts and spiteful minds contested the rightness and/or wrongness of it. Yet, if it had been a black person, a white person or even an Asian person, you probably wouldn’t have heard one peep about it.

Amazingly, there is one thing that the articles and reader letters have in common, regardless of which point of view they espouse. There is a 99.9 percent chance that the words were written by a “lawbreaker.” Even these words.

Not me, not you, not your preacher or your sheriff, not your chief of police nor your political representatives — not even your biggest hero or heroine — not one person age 18 or older living in the U.S. could pass a polygraph claiming they had never in life broken a law! Because we all decide which laws we will obey and which we will ignore.

Have you never once broken a speed limit, made an illegal turn, littered or “sampled” a piece of fruit in a grocery market? Ever claimed a tax deduction you were not entitled to, got it and kept it? Have you ever let your mutt use private property as a toilet? Ever slandered someone and gotten away with it? Or, the latest biggie to rate the “it must be for everyone but me” classification, have you already violated the new hands-free cell phone law? No, you’re innocent? Please.

Whether they came here for a chance at a better life or for the lucrative criminal opportunities an open society provides, to an “illegal” laws pertaining to legal entrance and residence are no more important than a no U-turn sign on an empty street with no cops at 3 a.m. is to you. So, make your point about illegal immigration, but leave the “holier than thou” stuff in the trash.

Unless, of course, you are in that 0.1 percent to whom none of this applies.

Mr Dunbar believes that we all have broken a law, and we should not use the law as an argument when discussing ILLEGAL Immigration. I do agree with one part of his opinion though:

“recent stories about an “illegal” who was stopped for whatever reason and had her car towed away. Bleeding hearts and spiteful minds contested the rightness and/or wrongness of it. Yet, if it had been a black person, a white person or even an Asian person, you probably wouldn’t have heard one peep about it.”

Other than that, he misses the mark by a huge margin.
Here’s why:
As we break the laws he cites, such as speeding, littering, illegal turns and stealing, we are subject to get caught, when we get caught there is a consequence for that action. If it’s speeding or littering we pay a fine, if it’s stealing we can serve time in jail. ALL of those things for us LEGAL immigrants leave a record, for the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, the consequence is far too light to deter the crime, and in some cases like “Sanctuary Cities” there is no consequence at all.

We have yet to see a group of “Speeders” parade down streets demanding higher power cars so they can go faster. Nor have we seen thieves marching and demanding the keys to stores to make it easier for them to steal. (In reference to the ILLEGAL Immigration parades/protests witnessed by the world via our liberal biased media)

When we break the laws he cites, we break them knowing the laws are there for a reason, we choose to break them for what ever reason, but we do not expect the laws to be changed so we don’t have to obey them.

Here is a situation my sons friend found himself in:
An unlicensed, uninsured IILLEGAL IMMIGRANT driving a 2005 Nissan, hit my sons friends car. The ILLEGAL Immigrant was found to be at fault, the officer cited him for driving WOL, and No Insurance and towed his car (It was still drivable) MY sons friend had only liability on his car (It was only worth 2.5k and he had worked for 6 months to pay it off) it was totaled. His insurance only pays if HE is at fault, and they just pay for the OTHER vehicle. He has a no fault clause, but it takes for ever to pay up and sometimes courts must get involved…(Another topic for another day) The result is: The ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, that shouldn’t even be here, costs the LEGAL IMMIGRANT kid a car, the inconvenience of being without a ride, and the HARD WORK of having to save up and buy another car because an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT chose to break ANOTHER LAW!. If the accident was worse and the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT seriously injured or killed the kid, is the OPEN BORDER worth it?

Look, I understand wanting to better your life, I understand wanting better things for your kids. I would probably have left Mexico myself had I been born there, BUT when I got here, I’d learn the language, I’d assimilate into my new home, and I would try very hard to make myself a valuable member of society or at the very least do no harm. And in the beginning that is exactly what the ILLEGAL Immigrants did, then the KIDS started growing up, and they had kids, then we start seeing the kinds of things the ORIGINAL ILLEGAL Immigrant left in Mexico show up here.
The assimilation factor is what is missing, the pride in your new country is what’s missing, the gratitude for your new home is what’s missing. And LEGAL Immigrants are paying the price.

Don’t complicate matters, it is simple and it is not too hard to figure out.
Gratitude, Respect and Assimilation are what the ILLEGAL Immigrants need to bring, what they have been bringing is Drugs, Gangs, and Mayhem, although it generally doesn’t show up until the first ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS kids are in school.

Illegal Immigration is at the root of a lot of our nations problems, it is not the ones coming over now to work in the fields or as they say “Earn a better life”, it is their offspring that turn into MS-13’s or Mexican Mafia members. I don’t mean to generalize and say ALL of the ILLEGAL Immigrants kids become gang members. But a lot of them do, and if even ONE of them kills your KID, what is YOUR recourse? IF one of them makes your kid a cripple or otherwise incapacitated, You would want to know why, wouldn’t you? WHY is asked in the news after an ILLEGAL Immigrant kills or injures someone, but then it’s too damn late!

The drain ILLEGAL Immigration puts on our infrastructure, education, health care, and public services are astronomical. And we are supposed to absorb a percentage of it, which we have done, but now the percentage of absorbent vs. the resources being drained has reached critical mass, the Education and Prison system are so closely tied together that WARDEN is also being used as the principles job description of MANY High Schools in border States.

The problem is not our “Holier than thou” use of the LAW.
The LAW is the only term those of us that believe a secured border is necessary can use without being called a “Racist”. LAW is color blind, LAW is the fabric of our society and the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT breaks the LAW every minute they are in America.
Ok now you guys can quit calling me a racist, start calling me a LAWYER. ( I am not sure which is worse though)

18 Replies to “Illegal Immigration is a minor law issue.”

  1. Lowering the speed limit by half would give us more instances of law-breaking. We would than have to increase the speed allowed, not prosecute more driver. That people have to break the law to come here means we need to make coming legal easier, not prosecute those who break the law coming.

  2. @arturo fernandez: I don’t disagree with you there, we should make it easier to become legal, we should also make it safer for those that are here legally. The point Arturo is not that law should be changed, it should be enforced and it should be respected.

    Changing the laws or making it easier can be discussed once our borders are secured, until then NO discussion. We tried that once and it failed miserably.

    You say “Don’t prosecute those who break the law coming”? Then why have a law Arturo?
    You might be the hardest working orange picker in the world, or a brilliant scientist but you also might be a drug dealer, a murderer or a terrorist.
    If you are busted coming across the border you should be arrested for invading a sovereign Nation. You should be printed and photographed and deported.. come back YOU should spend 5 years doing county work like cleaning graffiti, picking up trash and street repair, being housed in a prison getting three meals a day. THEN deported.
    Do ya think that is too harsh? Get caught a third time.
    What’s the laws in Mexico Arturo? why not stay there and FIX Mexico? why come up here and tell us how to run our house? fix your nest.

  3. Robert, if you agree it’s a mistake to lower the speed limit, causing more law-breaking, I don’t understand why your solution to that mistake is harsher penalties for those who break the speed limit law, rather than leniency (amnesty) and a law that makes more sense.

    We should definitely try to keep drug dealers and terrorists away, and not waste our resources on stopping and returning those who come to work.

    I disagree that we should make slaves of people whom we invite with jobs and for lower prices.

    I’m not interested in Mexico. This is my country.

  4. @arturo fernandez: THE SPEED LIMIT LAW HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION Arturo, the problem with the folks that advocate Amnesty is they try to muddy up the waters.
    It isn’t that difficult, We are a sovereign Nation, ANY OTHER COUNTRY in the world including MEXICO does not allow ILLEGAL Immigration, yet we in America not only tolerate it, we get the ILLEGALS parading in the street demanding MORE!

    I am not advocating making slaves of OUR people either did you not see the part where I said ILLEGAL??? There should be a punishment for breaking the law, not a reward.

    Obviously you think amnesty is the way to go, evidently you haven’t been paying attention, amnesty was granted in the 80’s look at the benefits we have received from that compassionate gesture… THE BORDER IS STILL OPEN!

  5. I nominate this assclown for moonbat of the year…geeeesh….what a crock of BS.

    How the hell can you equate littering to the barbarians invading our country….ohhhh I could smack him upside his damn head, but y’all probably have a law against that too in Cali.

  6. @Robert and Arturo,
    I am planning to move to the US myself in about 5-6 years, and I can safely say, I am in full favour of tight border sercurity. America DESERVES to be treated with respect and has the right to sercure its land. Besides, illegals would make life very hard for legal immigrants, so I don’t see how opening the border would help.

    Like what the conservatives say, no doubt let the path to citizenship or a Green card be easier, but at the same time, clamp down on the border.

    (Oh no, now I am a Chinese being a racist towards the Hispanics!! Hey Donnie, what are you going to do about it?)

    Isaacs Is talking about..New entry to blogroll

  7. “I nominate this assclown for moonbat of the year”

    joe, Robert is not that bad.

    “Oh no, now I am a Chinese being a racist towards the Hispanics!!”

    Isaac, Hispanics are not crossing illegally because they’re Hispanic. They’re coming because they’re next door (and Americans are welcoming them with jobs and for lower prices).

    Robert, you’re saying that “the LAW is the LAW…” When laws don’t make sense, they should be changed not reinforced, like the speeding example, which you brought up. I’m just making the point that “the LAW is the LAW…” is not good enough.

    It is true that “we are a sovereign Nation”, to the degree that its people want sovereignty. Illegal immigrants are not coming, giving each other jobs, and keeping low prices all to themselves. Americans do that. By their very actions, Americans (the entrepreneur, but more important the consumer), have decided illegal immigrants be part of its national composition.

  8. Arturo,
    I was just making a joke at that last part.

    Anyway, my main point is that the border should be secure, is there any problem with that? And yes, companies should also be punished for hiring people like that. Thats what my view is. Do you disagree with any of them? Just to make sure you understand.

  9. Isaac, I think a relaxed border, no fence, makes it easier for them to go back when they’re not needed. That’s the way it was before. Workers would come work, go back to visit family, come back to work, and so on. But than enforcement made back-and-forth harder. It became about coming and staying, and bringing your family with you.

    I don’t believe Americans be punished for hiring illegal immigrants, as long as illegal immigrants are treated honestly. Around here in Southern California, every hot afternoon you see illegal immigrants mowing Americans’ homes’ lawns, for thirty to fifty bucks depending on how much work is desired. That’s almost every house in this middle-class neighborhood. I don’t think Americans should be punished for that.

  10. But isn’t hiring them kind of providing an incentive for more to come? Like I said, LEGAL immigration should be made easier, to allow the honest ones to come in and work, to feed their families, etc. But it is the illegals who should be stopped through border sercurity. I plan to move there myself, and illegals all over the place would make things much harder would it not? Besides, the safety of American homes are at stake here.

  11. arturo fernandez, aka:Fucknozzle: The LAW is the LAW and if it were up to me we’d be shooting every one of those ILLEGAL sons a bitches as they came across…

    Yeah, I know, I’m a bigot, a racist and I don’t like Taco Bell…

  12. It is an incentive, and more come. But what that tells us is that our economy is healthy, and a healthy economy is a good thing. If our economy soars, and Americans can’t afford gardeners and housekeepers anymore, and start laying them off, more illegal immigrants will leave and fewer will come. That is, as long as we have an open border.

  13. TexasFred, you’ve just shown us what’s left of your side when its arguments are dealt with rationally.

  14. arturo fucknozzle: One thing you CAN count on, I’m not a dick slurping left handed libtard wetback loving asshole like you and the ones that put you up to coming here…

    I HATE ILLEGALS, of ALL ilks, and would gladly man the border and shoot each and every one of them that I saw, and let me tell you something else, I make NO apologies to you or any other WETBACK loving piece of shit FOR my feelings regarding the ILLEGAL garbage that is ruining this nation…

    Fucking ILLEGALS, beaners, and God knows what else, they are destroying this nation, they ARE the enemy and in MY world, the enemy goes down…

    Here’s rational for you Artie fucknozzle, GET LEGAL or get the fuck OUT of the USA.. Is that too complicated for your bean eating asshole illegal buddies to understand?? GET LEGAL and then there’s NO problem, until then, they are all nothing more than GARBAGE on the face of the USA…

  15. @arturo fernandez: MAKE IT EASIER? Arturo you dun left the reservation..
    Workers go back and fourth? Yeah they come over here, bring drugs, get money and take money back to Mexico.. So a Mexican murderer comes over “ILLEGALLY” and kills your Mother… Then goes back to Mexico, all is ok right?

    Any company hiring an ILLEGAL Immigrant should be shut down, and fined heavily.
    Any ILLEGAL that is located on American soil should be printed, photographed and sent HOME!
    Any ILLEGAL that has been sent back once and comes back, should be punished to the full extent of the law (which should be tougher) and then be deported again.
    Arturo, WHAT PART OF FIX YOUR OWN DAMN COUNTRY don’t you understand? You are so willing to come up here and tell us how to operate? why not try that shit in Mexico?

  16. “So a Mexican murderer comes over “ILLEGALLY” and kills your Mother… Then goes back to Mexico, all is ok right?”

    US natives commit more murders proportionally than illegal immigrants, so if I were to live by the paranoia you recommend, I’d have to lock my Mother in the bedroom. I don’t think so.

    “Any company hiring an ILLEGAL Immigrant should be shut down, and fined heavily.”

    American entrepreneurs hiring illegal immigrants to be able to have businesses should not be shut down or fined, as that will cause our economy to soar more. Government should not be harassing what’s healthy in our economy.

    “Any ILLEGAL that is located on American soil should be printed, photographed and sent HOME!”

    Illegal immigrants should be “printed, photographed”, and be given a driving test…to give them drivers licenses.

    “Arturo, WHAT PART OF FIX YOUR OWN DAMN COUNTRY don’t you understand?”

    I am trying to fix my own (in your opinion) damn country, the USA.

    “…why not try that shit in Mexico?”

    Since in these conversations your side wants to fixate on Mexico, here it is. Thirty years ago the average Mexican woman had six kids, today it’s two kids. With Mexico’s expanding free-market economy, and its now stable population, soon Mexicans will have no interest in us. That is probably the case already. The decreases in crossings (apprehensions) are probably a result of that. The people crossing illegally now are largely Central Americans. Recently, Mexico changed the penalty for illegally crossing into Mexico from jail-time to a fine of three hundred dollars. This at the same time that the workers in Iowa are imprisoned. It looks like your side is successfully turning US illegal immigration policy to look like the Mexican illegal immigration policy you deride Mexico for having. Illegal crossings into Mexico are to reach the US, which means that harsher punishments for illegal immigrants in Mexico (which your sides says Mexico should be condemned for) actually help your side that wants them out of the US. More humane treatment of illegal immigrants in Mexico means more will make it safely across to the US. It’s clear your side’s obsession with condemning Mexico’s treatment of illegal immigrants is nothing more than Mexico bashing. But whatever. Like I said, I don’t care about Mexico. I care about this country.

    Robert, from your several comments here, you are obviously not the extremist TexasFred is. It is he you should be condemning. He’s making you side look bad.

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