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Getting tough on Grafitti.. well sort of.

Getting tough on Grafitti.. well sort of.

The cost of getting caught doing graffiti is going up next year.


Wall art by Moron hoodrat
Wall art by Moron hoodrat

Anyone convicted of vandalism for graffiti causing $400 or more in damage will have to clean up the property and keep it tidy for up to a year under a law that will go into effect in January.

The cleanup penalty must be imposed by judges under the new law, according to spokeswoman Rachel Cameron with Gov. Schwarzenegger’s office. Currently, the law leaves this aspect of a sentence to the judge’s discretion.

The new law is not perfect but it does give judges the ability to make the right calls, Riverside County Superior Court Judge Mark Cope said.

When the defendant is a minor, the parents can be ordered to clean up their child’s mess unless it would be too burdensome for the family because of child care or economic concerns, according to the law.

“In the right case, I think it’s great when young people are held accountable,” said Cope, who handles juvenile matters at the Southwest Justice Center in French Valley.

As for the provision that holds parents accountable for their children’s actions, he said, it would only be practical in cases where minors are vandalizing their own neighborhood.

“It allows them to have a sense of responsibility for their community,” Cope said.

Two county probation officials said they will work with the victims and the judges on a case-by-case basis when the cleanup provision is ordered.

“The judge would have to take into consideration the victim, because I don’t know how many people are going to want this kid and his parents on their property cleaning up graffiti,” said Bryce Hulstrom, assistant director of the Riverside County Probation Department’s juvenile services division

Hulstrom and Beth Stevens, director of Adult Probation Services, said they expect judges in Riverside County to impose the community service penalty, also provided under the new law, more often than the cleanup penalty.

Most graffiti crimes are committed by people with gang ties, and having someone clean up graffiti left by a rival gang member could have deadly consequences, said Stevens, whose agency will handle the bulk of these cases.

“We are already hesitant with having juveniles do graffiti cleanup because it can be dangerous,” she said. “They can be targeted by other gang members.”

It makes more sense to have someone trained in graffiti removal to immediately fix the damaged property instead of waiting more than a month for someone’s case to be resolved, Stevens said.

Hulstrom said if a judge orders a defendant to keep a wall clean for a year, the Probation Department will set up a monitoring program.

Some cities and county agencies have invested time and much money into removing those unsightly letters and words scribbled on bridges, walls and signs.

The San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors has allocated $500,000 for a countywide graffiti-abatement program, said Randy Rogers, code enforcement chief for the county. The county has crews of contractors who daily search for graffiti. There are four graffiti teams and most of the time there are two people per team, he said.

Riverside has committed $1 million to fighting graffiti while the county has a mobile graffiti-eradication team of eight employees.

In 2007, Riverside received 21,200 calls complaining about graffiti while the Riverside Police Department made 270 arrests in connection with graffiti vandalism that year.

The Riverside County Economic Development Agency’s graffiti-removal program in 2007 got 6,611 calls in the unincorporated areas and cleaned almost 701,000 square-feet of defaced property, spokesman Tom Freeman said.

The Riverside County district attorney’s office filed 890 misdemeanor and felony vandalism charges in 2006, 1,231 in 2007 and 889 charges by August 2008, according to data provided by spokesman Ryan Hightower.

Graffiti’s grip on a community extends far beyond the immediate neighborhood.

“The reality is that it’s a blight,” Rogers, the San Bernardino County code enforcement chief, said. “It also lowers property values significantly. It’s the first thing you see when you drive into a neighborhood.”

Riverside County is trying to attract new homebuyers and businesses to the area and graffiti is a detractor, Freeman said. It gives the impression that the area has a high crime rate, he said.

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This is step in the right direction, it is NOT as tough as I would have liked, but it’s moving the right way. The part that bothers me is this “We are already hesitant with having juveniles do graffiti cleanup because it can be dangerous,” she said. “They can be targeted by other gang members.”

IF a kid gets killed cleaning up graffiti because he did it, it will be the judges fault according to the lawyers. As always the blame will be deflected away from the truth, the truth is the graffiti perpetrator (AKA Idiot) is responsible and should be held as such. AND so are the parents of “REPEAT” offenders, by repeat I mean doing it more than once, not being caught more than once. If the “IDIOT” is found to have caused more than $400.00 dollars of damage, his tag most likely was found on more than one place.

I was involved in a lot of the discussions about ways to curtail this crime, and for those of you thinking it is a minor crime, a victimless crime, or not a crime at all. I ask you to think about the money spent cleaning it up, then look at where the money could be better spent? Like child care for mothers trying to get out of the poverty level, and MANY other community funded areas.

We are not going to stop fighting it, we are not going to allow it to continue, so while IDIOTS are painting things that don’t belong to them, they should know they are taking help away from their “Familia”

I do like that we are going to hold the parents responsible (At least on paper) I will be interested to see if it actually holds up. This article in the Press Enterprise is in very large print on the FRONT page of the local section. It is in Spanish on “la Opinion” and English in several local newspapers.

The word is getting out. Took long enough but FINALLY some teeth in a graffiti law.

Grafitti Vandals Getting Violent?

Grafitti Vandals Getting Violent?

Gangbangers and Taggers turning violent, say it isn’t so? /Sarcasm

One man got stabbed. Another got shot in the chest. A 6-year-old boy was temporarily blinded when he was spray-painted in the face.

And they were the lucky ones among those who have had run-ins with graffiti “crews,” or gangs.

Over the past 2 1/2 years in Southern California, three people have been killed after trying to stop graffiti vandals in the act. A fourth died after being shot while watching a confrontation between crews in a park.

“We have seen a marked increase in these graffiti-tagging gangs taking to weapons and fighting to protect their walls, their territory, their name,” said Los Angeles County sheriff’s Lt. Robert Rifkin.

Los Angeles County has battled graffiti for decades, spending $30 million a year to paint over or clean up the emblems, names and other images spray-painted on stores, concrete-lined riverbeds, rail lines, phone booths, buses, even police cars. On Wednesday, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a law requiring convicted graffiti vandals to remove their scrawl.

For some taggers, protecting their work is akin to defending their names and their honor.

“If we see someone calling the police, then we target them,” said Mario Garcia, 20, who describes himself as a former tagger trying to become a professional artist. “You are trying to stop me from what I live, what I believe in and what I breathe? We are not going to let no one get in the way.”

Oh and lets take a look at the perpetrators and the victims of the vandals:

In an attack last month, two youths spray-painted the face and body of the 6-year-old boy who spotted them scribbling gang signs on a wall near Compton. The boy recovered from chemical burns to his eyes.

On the same day, a 51-year-old auto mechanic was shot in the chest in Los Angeles when he confronted two suspected gang members painting the wall of his shop.

Another man, Michael Lartundo, 26, was stabbed in the hand and arm after yelling at a group of graffiti vandals scrawling on a wall in March behind his brother’s house in suburban Whittier.

“I just told them it ain’t right,” Lartundo recalled. “I said, ‘If you are going to write on the wall, write on your own wall.'”

The most recent attack occurred July 15, when a 16-year-old boy was shot and killed after rival graffiti crews converged on a Los Angeles park for a fight. The victim was in a crowd of onlookers. (This was a typical shooting into a crowd crime, that area gangs are known for)

Last August, Maria Hicks, 58, was shot in the head and died after flashing her headlights and honking at a teenager spray-painting a wall near her home in Pico Rivera, a blue-collar suburb east of Los Angeles. Four people have been charged with murder.

Ten days after Hicks died, Seutatia Tausili, 65, was fatally shot and her grandson wounded when he told taggers to stop vandalizing a trash can outside their home in Hesperia in San Bernardino County. Three men were charged with murder.

Robert Whitehead was shot to death in 2006 in the Los Angeles County area of Valinda when he tried to keep taggers from marking a neighbor’s garage. Investigators arrested one man with alleged ties to the Mexican Mafia, a prison gang.
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We see this graffiti shit all over the place in my area, We as a community are trying to keep it at a minimum by calling the police when we see something.I go the extra mile and so do several other community members.

I ride around my neighborhood late at night, I walk my neighborhood all hours of the day, I know my neighbors and I know where the trouble is coming from. I also know that when I confront the vandals, I do it with my safety at the forefront of my thoughts. (You be the judge of what that means.)
I have personally been responsible for 8 arrests in my area related to vandals/Burglary and theft and I don’t plan on stopping because of this report. I will not allow these thugs to run my hood, I run my hood, and I do it with the full co-operation of law enforcement I do it with folks that get involved and I do it with out fear because I fear no man on earth, I am old enough and wise enough that I am confident of my abilities and my preparation when I patrol my hood. I use very good judgment when I am out at night. I ASSESS the situation carefully, and I call the police FIRST, I follow, I watch, and I inform the dispatch operator EXACTLY what is going on where I am what I am wearing and  what is going to happen if I get to where the vandals are before the cops do. AND I have only beat the cops there one time, since then they have been johnny on the spot.

This is not a war zone, there are GOOD folks here, the problem is the influx of assholes from LA/Pomona/OC as well as those that grew up here with gang ties. The problem is back to the parents, I don’t give a damn if they are poor, can’t afford to give their kids whatever, there are many programs for kids they chose to be vandals or gangbangers and they end up in prison or dead it is the parents fault. Our liberal laws in Cali our prison system and border policies are directly responsible for the continuing problem in our nation, this is not just a Los Angeles problem.

I think as long as the media, police and our culture is inclined to be afraid rather than fight for what’s right we will continue to see this type of activity. The media is enabling the “Violent vandals” IMO, the reason is simple: You very rarely see a report that praises the efforts of the community or persons responsible for catching  “Taggers” or “Gangbangers”

I personally think once a gang has been ID’d and has more than 10 members, it should be handled by a military entity, rather than the local PD. Their members should be placed under surveilance and at the first crime, be incarserated at Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s place.
The issues of gangs needs to be addressed and with the funding the police get, the budget cuts and the society that allows criminals free reign, it is time for us able bodied individuals to stand up and shoot back so to speak. Unfortunately the laws are set up to benefit the criminal rather than society.

I have as much right not to look at someones “tag” as they have to put it on property that TAX PAYERS (of which I am one) pay for. The parents of MOST of these “taggers” or “Gangbangers”are being handed fines from between 5 and 10 thousand dollars when they are caught, BUT if they are unable to pay because they are on state assistance then what? NOTHING, its a damn slap in the face, the kid gets minimum time at which he meets more idiots like him and NOTHING changes.

The problem as I see it, is OUR laws. It’s the fact that these morons get street cred when caught, but that’s it, the parents don’t suffer, the kids don’t suffer everyone feels good about the arrest but there is NO fear of getting caught again. I would like to see the parents serve a day in jail for every 10 bucks in damage their kid caused. Then I bet we’d get some kids with a different outlook.

I feel sorry for the victims of the “taggers” and “Gangbangers” and they should be held up as fallen hero’s because they stood for something. The media portrays them as the ones at fault. THAT’S WRONG!