Israel and Gaza, the Real Problem.

Israel and Gaza, the Real Problem.

Israeli Ground Forces Cross Border Into Gaza Strip

Thousands of Israeli troops backed by columns of tanks and helicopter gunships launched a ground offensive in Gaza on Saturday night, with officials saying they expected a lengthy fight in the densely populated territory after eight days of punishing airstrikes failed to halt militant rocket attacks on Israel.

Israeli defense officials told FOX News that an estimated 30 Hamas militants had been killed in the incursion so far, though precise numbers are hard to pin down.

Israeli leaders said the operation, known as Cast Lead, was meant to quell militant rocket and mortar fire on southern Israel.

The United Nations, meanwhile, scheduled emergency consultations Saturday night on the escalation, but the United States blocked approval of a statement calling for an immediate cease-fire in the Gaza Strip and southern Israel.

“We are not war hungry, but we shall not … allow a situation where our towns, villages and civilians are constantly targeted by Hamas,” Defense Minister Ehud Barak said. “It will not be easy or short, but we are determined.”

Why is Israel fighting? The reason is simple, after WW2 we placed Jews on a small piece of land and hoped savages would learn to accept it. We were wrong. We expected civilized minds to prevail, we were wrong. Arab nations proclaimed they would “Butcher the Jews and throw their bodies in the sea.” That meant every man, woman and child would be slain. They did not say; “We will destroy their armed forces” Nope they said ALL Jews.

What happened next? About 1 million Arabs from various countries got their ass kicked by an Israeli rag-tag army and the Arabs have been crying about it ever since. Lets flash forward to 2006; Hezbollah managed to survive an Israeli onslaught because of a lack of will on the part of a nutless President (Both ours and theirs) and claimed a victory among the rubble and dead bodies. The Arab media declared it a victory for Hezbollah, however few others claimed it a victory for either side.

We are almost three weeks into the I.D.F. operation to defend itself and we hear the same things. “We are living under occupation”  “Israel is starving our children” and several other BULLSHIT excuses.

Pardon me while I get a little logical:
IF Palestinians wanted peace there would be peace. IF Palestinians did not elect a terrorist organization to speak for them, there may be peace. IF Palestinians would not train their children to kill Jews, ALL Jews, there may be peace. IF Palestinians would not take their orders from Iran, there may be peace. There will be no peace as long as Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas are involved. The conflict is far to profitable for Iran Saudi Arabia and Syria to have any peaceful resolution in that part of the world.

My suggestion:
Turn off the cameras, evict all news organizations from the area, and eliminate all coverage of ANYTHING Israeli or Palestinian. Let them sort it out one final time.
Go Israel; you are running out of time.

Refer to the first part of this conflict if you are confused.

44 Replies to “Israel and Gaza, the Real Problem.”

  1. A final solution?

    How novel.

    Not complain that Israel is starving people in Gaza? They should just shut up as it’s happening.

    What proof is there that Palestinians want to kill all Jews? I never heard anything so ridiculous.

    Face it, your precious Israel is a sadistic monster. Its idea of a Palestinian state is the equivalent of a slave with a pain-giving device with Izzy activating it on a whim – they love celebrating Jewish holidays with “closures”… In fact, the Zionists sold themselves to the major powers by promising to be a regional cancer. I see they’re doing their job admirably.

    And to think, Benjamin Netanyahu said that Sept 11 2001 attacks were “very good” – the culmination of Israeli policy over the past fifty plus years… so they may be a cancer supposedly serving the West, but the fallout sure does cross the ocean and affects Americans.

    George Washington would be not amused. Remember entangling alliances with none?

    1. @Xenon:
      Complain about Israel starving people in Gaza? See that’s the issue right there, YOU and those like you refuse to talk about the REAL reason folks are being choked out in Gaza. The reason is ISLAMIC idiots that believe it is better to send their kid into Israel wearing a Bomb vest, than it is to negotiate a peace that doesn’t include massive Israeli suicide. Get off your professors nuts and check back when you get a clue.

      What proof is there that Palestinians want to kill all Jews? I never heard anything so ridiculous.

      Are you really that ignorant or are you just pretending? Iran, is the hand up the Palestinians skirt. Hamas is running Gaza, Hamas’s charter states that it is bent on the destruction of Israel how daft are you? Fuck sometimes I think our education system might not be FUBAR then I get comments like this.

  2. Xenon,
    Read the damn Koran. I suppose it did not matter that Israel has NOT sent any suicide bombers to kill your precious hadjis. :hole:

  3. No one gave a rats ass when the rags were launching rockets into Israel. but now that Israel is kicking ass, it all has to stop.

    Kill all the Pal’s, Hamas, and as many other rag-headed bastards as get in the way. I mean wipe them all out! Remember ‘nits make lice’, so don’t leave any alive. :shootin:

  4. Xenon, YOU are an idiot!

    “…..Benjamin Netanyahu said that Sept 11 2001 attacks were “very good””

    HERE is what he said:
    “It’s very good,” he said, then added “Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel).”

    Evidently, YOU are too stupid to understand what he was saying, so, allow me to translate for you:

    After 9/11, Americans were in shock. How dare anyone attack OUR homeland. Well, the freakin’ Muslims blood suckers have been attacking Israel from their inception. What we suffered on that day, the Israelis suffer on a daily basis. The fear they have to live with…when is the next lunatic going to walk into a pizza place and blow him/herself up, along with innocent men, women and children. How many school children will die when targeted by their crappy rockets?

    Oh, and the Muzzies have been MURDERING not just Jews, but Christians, Buddhists, etc, as well, for CENTURIES! Do you understand that? MURDER! Why? Because their victims aren’t followers of the murderous pedophile. How do I know this? I had relatives MURDERED by those child rapists! Do you think cutting a pregnant woman’s breasts open, placing sticks of dynamite in the cuts and lighting them, watching her blow up is a NORMAL way of life? Well, for YOU, it might be, but for sane, rational people, IT IS NOT!

    I’m going to apologize to Rob, and his readers, in advance for what I’m about to say to Xenon, but seriously, SHUT THE FUCK UP! Until you know what the hell you are talking about, go suck rotten eggs!

    :shootin:

  5. Any, and let me repeat this, ANY Arab nation could put a stop to this within 24 hours. Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Saudia Arabia, Lebanon, Iran, Oman, Yemen — even Iraq — have multiple hundreds of square miles of land they could donate and provide to their BROTHERS and SISTERS, the so-called “Palestinians.” But I do not see that, I do not see that at all. Why, perhaps? I’ll be succinct: they are mostly a nomadic, barbaric culture whose motto continues to be “I against my brother; my brother and I against my cousin; I, my brother, and my cousin against the stranger.”

    And these alleged loyalties can change at a moment’s notice, at the drop of a hate — oh, excuse me, I meant hat.

    BZ

  6. For people who claim to be quoting historical facts – you seem short of many – but educated people that you are the F word no doubt replaces history.

    I have been defending Isreal for many years, I am finding it harder and harder. But lets look at the quotes here:

    barbaric culture – well that is what the Nazis said about the Jews before they murdered them. hoped savages – that is what the Nazis said about the Russians and Poles before they murdered them.

    Hezbollah managed to survive an Israeli onslaught; er, so Isreal was the victim here?

    MURDERING not just Jews, but Christians, Buddhists, etc, as well, for CENTURIES! – oh dear – so the Crusade, Inquisitions, 100 year wars; the ethnic cleansing of South American Indians, North Americans Indians, The slave trade and the brutal colonisation of most of Africa just to mention a few facts is nothing to do with us then?

    barbaric culture – where do you people get your facts from. These people were writing, growing crops, building wonders we can only wonder at, while we were still banging about in our caves.

    We are living under occupation” “Israel is starving our children; funny – we went to war against Iraq because Sadaam occupied Kuwait. Hm, and all those sanctions – I seem to remember a lot of children suffered. Well, maybe kids in Gaza are different?

    Turn off the cameras, evict all news organizations from the area – er – well actually – they did that first. Wonder why?

    Kill all the Pal’s, Hamas, and as many other rag-headed bastards as get in the way. I mean wipe them all out! Remember ‘nits make lice’, so don’t leave any alive – wonderful – the sort of thing the SS said before they shot woman and children.

    After 9/11, Americans were in shock. How dare anyone attack OUR homeland – I imagine the Iraq people not to mention, Vietnam, and some minor CIA inspired coups in South America came to rue the day we attacked their homeland. Why did we do that – oh yes freedom. Hm – funny that. All these displaced Palestinians – maybe they just want to be free, have rights, a place to call home instead of that death camp by the sea? Ah, lets just bomb them – we’re good at that.

    MURDERING not just Jews, but Christians, Buddhists, etc, as well, for CENTURIES! – now here’s a thing. The Crusades – well we did a lot of killing back then – off to the Holy Land to fight the locals. 100 year wars; brutal empires, ethnic cleansing; WW1 – WW2 – concentration camps; Vietnam, overthrow of elected South American governments; invasions – those nice people the CIA, just a few things that muslims can’t be blamed for.

    school children will die when targeted by their crappy rockets? – well so far – I believe about 4 civilians have been killed by the rockets; about 800 (many of them children) by Isreali bombs. Hm.

    1. It never ceases to amaze me… The folks that support the TERRORISTS always harken back to the crusades or the “What about” part of history… You are so far off base it’s pathetic.
      You say the SS said kill em all? I have got to find that insulting. Did the US worry about Civilian casualties when we won WW2? No we didn’t we bombed until the will to fight was broken then peace was achieved. You talk about the Nazi’s as if Israel has took their place? I don’t see it. Jews never blew themselves up in German eateries. I never saw any Jewish rockets deliberately target civilians. I see Israel as defending their SMALL area of the globe. I also see piss ants like you whining about so-called oppression LIARS. The only oppression is occurring from ARABS toward other ARABS or MUSLIMS on MUSLIMS. The MUSLIM Community could solve this issue at ANYTIME if they so choose, but it doesn’t serve them well to have a Palestinian state without conflict. You should really quit reading the bullshit of the MSM and use some COMMON SENSE. ask a few questions about the real history of the region and ask yourself WHY when oil prices fall we have a Jew v Palestine conflict? ask yourself who is pulling the strings? ask yourself WHY Hamas militants took over Gaza rather than commerce ? Why is it in Hamas’s charter that Israel can’t exist, yet nowhere in Israel’s charter does it say there can be no Palestine? Ask yourself a few common sense questions and if you come to the conclusion it’s Israel’s fault then I say you are a sheep who has been lied to so much that you are hopeless and should be shot in order to cull the herd.

  7. israel and palestine has been in arguement for many many years.(darkAI)In 2005, Israel said “We’re taking a first step towards peace. A big step. We are going to remove all settlements in Gaza and withdraw all forces. Gaza became independent, and Israel planned to withdraw from all territories. But first, they said “Okay, now lets see what the Palestinians do in return”. What did they do in return? Well.. they went into the Jewish settlements that were evacuated and burned down the synagogues, community centres, schools, a greenhouse and other multipurpose buildings left there which they could use. Then they escalated the rocket shooting on Israel by 232% in 2006.

    Hamas’s charter calls for the destruction of Israel and creating a strict Muslim state instead of it. As Hama’s leader said – Every ceasefire agreement[peace included] is only temporary. Their goal is genocide, and they won’t stop until they achieve it or are stopped.

    Hamas chief Khaled Mashaal said Saturday that the Islamist group’s request for a ceasefire with Israel was “a tactic in conducting the struggle.”
    In an interview with Al-Jazeera, Mashaal explained that “it is normal for any resistance … to sometimes escalate, other times retreat a bit.” Hamas has implemented ceasefires in the past and has later resumed attacks, he pointed out, citing 2003 as a specific example.
    (thanks darkAI)

    if israel were to issue a charter that they want to obliterate all the muslims in the world it would be a unanimous hatred towards the jews but when hamas chartered that they would not stop the attack until all jews are killed,majority of the world is backing them up.Hamas smuggled weapons for their attack yet they have no common sense within that head of theirs to smuggle food for the people.their leaders dare to talk cock yet are no where near gaza fighting along side their own men.hiding weapon cache in schools and civilian buildings and claim that the israeli attacked a civilian building with no apparent reason.calling themselves matyrs yet when they fight they hide behind a civilian shield.showing off how many of their children died instead of trying to keep them alive.and they claim to be martyrs by doing so.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=J08GqXMr3YE

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2232927//
    Terrorists from the Gaza Strip fire mortars from an UNRWA boys’ school in Gaza on 29 Oct. 2007. Hamas and other terror organizations in Gaza make deliberate use of civilians living in populated areas as human shields.

    Dont use your children and women as shields then cry for ceasefire!!!!dont use your dead and manifulate/exagerrate footage just to gain symphaties!!! For your actions really shows how desperate you people are. Allowing HAMAS to send rockets to israel and ask other people/country to stop israel from returning your GOOD gesture??? Letting them hide and use your schools,mosque,home and then crying that it is foul if your so called foes started to inflict damage and sufferings to your people??? WHY ??? You are asking israel to stop from bombing gaza;WHY??? Is it not your wish for a FIGHT and errase ISRAEL from the world??? Then why CRY now??? Why ask for HELP then??? WHY NOT ASK HAMAS TO STOP FIRST sending rockets to israel then stop your suffirings!!!!WHY??? ARE YOU enjoying the DEATHS of your youngters and women??? ARE YOU ALL AFFRAID that HAMAS will hurt you the most if you will do so??? Tsk,tsk,tsk,,,THIS IS A WAR YOU PEOPLE SEEK>>>>and you alone can stop this (the so called AGGRESSIONS to your people) if you will allow it so…its your move!!! THINK AGAIN

  8. my comments were simply reponding to the comments already written here and to show that hatred to one group, which led to mass murder, was started by some of the very comments I am reading here?

    A lesson from history – nits make lice’ – I believe Jews were equated to as rats in the pre war days; and you think this is an appropriate response –
    should be shot in order to cull the herd. ???

    Lets hope madmen never again take over a country and bring death and destruction to innocents. As for the problems of Gaza = well I would rather read what respected people on the ground have to say on both sides of the border and glean all the facts before I make a comment.

  9. But here is one respected view –

    ADMIN EDIT
    Quit copy pasting propaganda from your sources what do you think this is REUTERS???? You don’t understand, I don’t allow that bullshit here, only factual representation from other than braindead professors that see Nazi’s everywhere….Nazi=Obama.

  10. And another – but before I go – do the authorities know about this site? Under the cover of being proud to be American you seem to purport violent and racist solutions – just as the Nazis did? So – you are not really American (at least not the decent ones that I know) but something we fought against 70 years ago? You don’t have to agree with another’s view but to respond with emotional rants reveal far more about YOU than the problems you are commenting about!

    1. CJ, I deleted all that AP/Neuters bullshit you copy pasted, I quit relying on that type of reporting when they started photoshopping in victims in order to gain sympathy.
      As to your question about MY SITE.. You ignorant fuck, it is MY Site I live in America and I do not have to sugar coat my opinions. I can say exactly what I want to say in no uncertain terms. I have not called for an armed revolution against idiots like you, I have not yelled fire in a crowded theater. HOWEVER; in my opinion YOU should have your tongue held. YOU are the one inciting riots by your BLANKET support of terrorists. YOU and those like you will meet me and those like me one day on the field of battle and I will personally rip your fuckin throat out for you… You are sheep, YOU and those like you are nothing more than catalysts for the terrorist entity known has MUSLIM Extremists. CJ you are an idiot. You think you are fighting for the Oppressed but you are actually opining for those doing the oppressing.

  11. Ya know, I’m not going to say that terrorist supporting asswipes like CJ are cocksuckers but I’d bet money that they’d hold one in their mouth until the swelling went down… :rotflmao:

    Do the authorities KNOW about this place?? Why don’t you report it asshole… It’s freedom of speech, something you pecker smoochers HATE when it’s anyone else doing it…

    CJ, go fuck yourself… :finger:

  12. Hi Texas Fred! I should have known that I was going to incur your wrath. How do you always spot out people like me as the fakes and posers we are? I wish I was half as astute as you. Kudos, I will try to be more genuine and I think my best tact would be to stay away from places like this, I disagree with all of you, you’re just like NAZIs, but you’re very smart, you picked ME out of the crowd.

  13. Robert – you have changed what I wrote – completely – silly Man – now that was dumb. To ask people to respond and when they do – change what they write! That is about as low as you can go Robert.

    1. I Didn’t change anything you wrote, but your victim mentality is showing… You must be a Palestinian.
      I approved the one comment that didn’t include a book of BULLSHIT, the other one I just deleted the BOOK. Oh and since you think it’s as low as I can go YOU HAVE NO IDEA how much lower I will go.. I have a little bit of knowledge in the area of websites and traffic directions and some other really cool tools at my disposal, and I can be rather rude too…

  14. CJ,
    I’ve watched your stupid comments go on and on, while remaining silent. But I think you have to think for yourself a little. I do NOT mind the civilian casualties simply because these people VOTED in Hamas. The same went for the Nazis AND the Japs during WW2. If it was a dictatorship like say North Korea then there would indeed be reason to be cautious, but not so now.

  15. Robert, you be da RUDE DUDE………and I love it. This cj has got to be one of them limpwristed pussies that believe Israel should just lay down and let the muslim fucksticks have their way. I say “GO ISRAEL” when you get done there, turn your guns on those asswipes that are firing at you out of lebanon and screw the worlds opinion.

    1. Jim, I’m really not trying to be rude man, I am just sick of these Pro terrorist SOB’s getting all the air play, they are on every MSM touting anti-Israel sentiments and CJ as well as Modern Phuckhead just spew the same ol LIES they have been fed by libtard professors.

  16. but dammit Robert, sometimes you just have to be rude to these kind of dicks. They have a one track mind and have been brain washed into thinking the way they do either by some imam or a liberal ass professor who shouldn’t be getting away with teaching this kind of shit to the students. Is it any wonder they grow up hating Israel when even the Walt Disney cartoon characters they are watching are spewing hatred
    towards the Israelites. How sad.

  17. Hamas back to fight Israeli, whered olmert was not agree if hamas have a weapons for protectting Palestine, so hamas have thoughted if Israel would be destroy Palestine by that negotiation. How much Palestinians killed after Israel declared at 1948? Its all called Holocaust PArt II after NAZI’s and 28th december 2008 till now is bigger. As Israel revenge also to destroy and genocide other.

    CAst Lead operation is primitiveness and arogant whered civilians killed especialy kids, women and old people hwom never responsible rockets stricking Israeli’s area. and civilians looking targetded by IDF as ritual of holocaut to celebrate at 27 th January becomes the holocaustday. Zionist is blamed but not Jewish. It all not justice anymore, it was massacre by containig radiation and phosphorus.

    if hamas blamed, they will blaming back to olmert how the last negotiation is very harass.

    PEACE…..!!!!

    1. @jokoparadise; YOU said

      CAst Lead operation is primitiveness and arogant whered civilians killed especialy kids, women and old people hwom never responsible rockets stricking Israeli’s area. and civilians looking targetded by IDF as ritual of holocaut to celebrate at 27 th January becomes the holocaustday. Zionist is blamed but not Jewish. It all not justice anymore, it was massacre by containig radiation and phosphorus.

      :rotflmao:

      Massacre you say? Hell I wouldn’t call pillow fight. You supporters of Hamas are expecting some kind of sympathy from me? NOT gonna happen, I am a believer in the 1000 eyes for an eye philosophy. Which means, my eager and not so bright friend; For every Israeli killed 1000 Palestinians/Hamas/Hezzbollah/Muslim Brotherhood/Iranian or whatever is attacking at the time pay…So if Israel has lost 20 soldiers or civilians 20,000 enemy combatants need to perish. This keeps things even. Just my way of thinking, but then again if I was fighting for my life and lively hood (Like Israel has been doing since 1948) I would be fighting to win, and the HOW I won wouldn’t be as important as the result….

  18. Kate and Fred…. :rotflmao: Stop it!! Stop it!!! My sides are about to rupture. :rotflmao:
    What ya think Fred? Think maybe “bunkie” was trying to pick them words outta the book? :biggrin:
    Robert, I really liked your suggestion about shit canning all those biased ass news hounds(Reuiters especially) and then let the party begin :shootin: Right On!! Go Israel.

  19. its only coz of bloody thinkers like u dat world is on fo a toss today..how inhuman of u all..hav u seen de pictures of new born whose heads hav bin ripped apart?Aw..m sure it would make no difference to beasts like u who dont value life n love. people lik u jus deserve to b slain in de name of “Wateva”.cum wat may..de israelis r gonna pay fo it..hugely..wat goes around does cum around..so jus shut ya traps n wait n watch!Allah bless Gaza n giv them all de strength to wipe off Israelian murderers(only de ones involved in killin,not de innocent ones) from this Earth n make it a better place to live!Amen!

    1. @Fathima; Once I decoded that shit you wrote, I decided to respond to it.

      We’ll take it a little bit at a time: You said

      “hav u seen de pictures of new born whose heads hav bin ripped apart?”

      Yes, I’ve seen several pictures, Israeli kids after HOMICIDE Bombers struck, Palestinian kids after Israeli Jets dropped some justice. Yeah I have seen the pictures and I must say, Israel is acting like wimps. They are causing more death and destruction by being so nice about where they strike. You should applaud Israel for not doing what needs to be done.

      I was going to quote that last part but it had Allah in it, that tells me you are a cult member. That makes sense, you are so clueless and brainwashed that reason and logic is beyond your scope. When you decide to move your religion out of the 7th century, perhaps their can be peace, until then Islam is a Plague on the earth and it should be removed.

  20. I was going to quote that last part but it had Allah in it, that tells me you are a cult member.

    Islam is a cult?? :rollingeyes:

    Oh no… Surely not… :rotflmao:

    Fathima is a moonbat from India, I am betting Fathima supported the assholes that killed all the innocent people in Mumbai a few weeks ago, just seems the type, supports ANY Islamic terrorist asshole that’ll bend her over and poke her… :straightfaced:

  21. Gracious sakes. I didn’t know y’all were THAT smart….you can actually understand what she said? I’m extremely impressed. I tried reading it three times, and I still can’t figure it out. Reckon I’m just not as good at translating stupid into comprehensive English as y’all…but I’m learning. 😛

  22. Buzz off u assholes….hav lotsa betta work to do rather dan respondin to sickos like u…chao………..dis is de rite place fo a bunch of idiots like u…so carry on….m outta dis shit!

  23. Such intellectual dialog ya got goin’ there MS Fat. Yep, really stated your case in such a comprehensive way there sweetie.

    Now, if I may be so bold…. :finger: Buh bye!

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