ICE: Nearly 600 detained in Miss. plant raid

LAUREL, Miss. (AP) - Federal officials say nearly 600 suspected illegal immigrants were detained in a raid on a manufacturing plant in southern Mississippi, making it the largest such sweep in the country.

A spokeswoman says more than 100 of those caught up in Monday’s raid on Howard Industries were released based on humanitarian concerns, mostly because they have children.

Most of the rest were transferred to a federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Jena, La. Nine 17-year-olds were transferred to the custody of the Office of Refugee Resettlement.

The Mississippi raid was one of a series of recent high-profile crackdowns on illegal immigrants. In May, officials swept into the Agriprocessors kosher meatpacking plant in Iowa and detained 400 workers.

HOW DARE THEY! This is an outrage, it is unacceptable and WRONG!
Sorry I’ve been watching the Demorat National Convention and I had a moment of Demorat thought.

At my company we recently had a couple of IMMIGRANTS become Americans, WE as Americans are BETTER off because they took the oath. One of them came here ILLEGALLY over 20 years ago. He Learned English, HE taught his kids ENGLISH, HE assimilated, HE didn’t take the EASY way and hang with La-Raza demanding SPANISH, HE is grateful for the opportunities AMERICA provides, HE Raised GOOD KIDS not a bunch of thuggish, gang banging retards, He made sure HE provided for his kids, HE worked his ass off to become an American, and I am proud to call him and those like him fellow AMERICANS.

There might be a few like our NEW Americans in that 600 arrested, but I doubt it. When that many stay that close together they are not becoming Americans, they are bringing their country HERE.

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I was up late and decided to do some stumbling around the interweb, I found something that was very interesting and it may spark some debate among those of differing opinions.

The Video is 10 minutes in length and If you haven’t seen it I suggest you take the time to view it in it’s entirety. It is eye opening and explained very well using FACTS, not opinions.

After watching the video I thought: The guy never mentioned ILLEGAL Immigration, IF those charts are from LEGAL Immigration, they are sorely under-estimated.

I am a proponent of LEGAL Immigration. I believe that if you can get here, knock on the door, and allow the country you desire to enter, the courtesy of knowing the who/what/where and WHY you are coming here, WE as a nation should welcome you.

IF you Run/jump/swim or parachute in through the back door you should be housed in a criminal facility until we finger print, photograph and record your DNA, then deport you.

The video explains the real issue without a racism twist, those that see racism in the video should look inside to see the real racists. The man is using data arrive at conclusions, he is using the same data the US Government uses. There is no way to count the ILLEGAL part of the Immigration issue.

How long does this continue? When will our “Leaders” wake up to the real problem?

I honestly believe that we need to continue the LEGAL Immigration policies, maybe we need to be more selective, but I think closing the door is NOT the American thing to do. We are all Immigrants, but we need to be careful not to over fill the life boat, or the life boat sinks, then what?

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I was reading my Sunday paper and in the opinion section (They call it “Perspective” ) I found a an interesting opinion, one was titled “We all Break the Law” by Carl F Dunbar of Blythe.

It’s not really breaking the “law” that so many people get incensed about. More truthfully, it’s what law is being broken and who’s breaking it that brings an uproar.

For instance, right now the most publicized and ranted about thing is what some have called the “swarms of illegal immigrants” in the U.S. Case in point: recent stories about an “illegal” who was stopped for whatever reason and had her car towed away. Bleeding hearts and spiteful minds contested the rightness and/or wrongness of it. Yet, if it had been a black person, a white person or even an Asian person, you probably wouldn’t have heard one peep about it.

Amazingly, there is one thing that the articles and reader letters have in common, regardless of which point of view they espouse. There is a 99.9 percent chance that the words were written by a “lawbreaker.” Even these words.

Not me, not you, not your preacher or your sheriff, not your chief of police nor your political representatives — not even your biggest hero or heroine — not one person age 18 or older living in the U.S. could pass a polygraph claiming they had never in life broken a law! Because we all decide which laws we will obey and which we will ignore.

Have you never once broken a speed limit, made an illegal turn, littered or “sampled” a piece of fruit in a grocery market? Ever claimed a tax deduction you were not entitled to, got it and kept it? Have you ever let your mutt use private property as a toilet? Ever slandered someone and gotten away with it? Or, the latest biggie to rate the “it must be for everyone but me” classification, have you already violated the new hands-free cell phone law? No, you’re innocent? Please.

Whether they came here for a chance at a better life or for the lucrative criminal opportunities an open society provides, to an “illegal” laws pertaining to legal entrance and residence are no more important than a no U-turn sign on an empty street with no cops at 3 a.m. is to you. So, make your point about illegal immigration, but leave the “holier than thou” stuff in the trash.

Unless, of course, you are in that 0.1 percent to whom none of this applies.

Mr Dunbar believes that we all have broken a law, and we should not use the law as an argument when discussing ILLEGAL Immigration. I do agree with one part of his opinion though:

“recent stories about an “illegal” who was stopped for whatever reason and had her car towed away. Bleeding hearts and spiteful minds contested the rightness and/or wrongness of it. Yet, if it had been a black person, a white person or even an Asian person, you probably wouldn’t have heard one peep about it.”

Other than that, he misses the mark by a huge margin.
Here’s why:
As we break the laws he cites, such as speeding, littering, illegal turns and stealing, we are subject to get caught, when we get caught there is a consequence for that action. If it’s speeding or littering we pay a fine, if it’s stealing we can serve time in jail. ALL of those things for us LEGAL immigrants leave a record, for the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, the consequence is far too light to deter the crime, and in some cases like “Sanctuary Cities” there is no consequence at all.

We have yet to see a group of “Speeders” parade down streets demanding higher power cars so they can go faster. Nor have we seen thieves marching and demanding the keys to stores to make it easier for them to steal. (In reference to the ILLEGAL Immigration parades/protests witnessed by the world via our liberal biased media)

When we break the laws he cites, we break them knowing the laws are there for a reason, we choose to break them for what ever reason, but we do not expect the laws to be changed so we don’t have to obey them.

Here is a situation my sons friend found himself in:
An unlicensed, uninsured IILLEGAL IMMIGRANT driving a 2005 Nissan, hit my sons friends car. The ILLEGAL Immigrant was found to be at fault, the officer cited him for driving WOL, and No Insurance and towed his car (It was still drivable) MY sons friend had only liability on his car (It was only worth 2.5k and he had worked for 6 months to pay it off) it was totaled. His insurance only pays if HE is at fault, and they just pay for the OTHER vehicle. He has a no fault clause, but it takes for ever to pay up and sometimes courts must get involved…(Another topic for another day) The result is: The ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, that shouldn’t even be here, costs the LEGAL IMMIGRANT kid a car, the inconvenience of being without a ride, and the HARD WORK of having to save up and buy another car because an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT chose to break ANOTHER LAW!. If the accident was worse and the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT seriously injured or killed the kid, is the OPEN BORDER worth it?

Look, I understand wanting to better your life, I understand wanting better things for your kids. I would probably have left Mexico myself had I been born there, BUT when I got here, I’d learn the language, I’d assimilate into my new home, and I would try very hard to make myself a valuable member of society or at the very least do no harm. And in the beginning that is exactly what the ILLEGAL Immigrants did, then the KIDS started growing up, and they had kids, then we start seeing the kinds of things the ORIGINAL ILLEGAL Immigrant left in Mexico show up here.
The assimilation factor is what is missing, the pride in your new country is what’s missing, the gratitude for your new home is what’s missing. And LEGAL Immigrants are paying the price.

Don’t complicate matters, it is simple and it is not too hard to figure out.
Gratitude, Respect and Assimilation are what the ILLEGAL Immigrants need to bring, what they have been bringing is Drugs, Gangs, and Mayhem, although it generally doesn’t show up until the first ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS kids are in school.

Illegal Immigration is at the root of a lot of our nations problems, it is not the ones coming over now to work in the fields or as they say “Earn a better life”, it is their offspring that turn into MS-13’s or Mexican Mafia members. I don’t mean to generalize and say ALL of the ILLEGAL Immigrants kids become gang members. But a lot of them do, and if even ONE of them kills your KID, what is YOUR recourse? IF one of them makes your kid a cripple or otherwise incapacitated, You would want to know why, wouldn’t you? WHY is asked in the news after an ILLEGAL Immigrant kills or injures someone, but then it’s too damn late!

The drain ILLEGAL Immigration puts on our infrastructure, education, health care, and public services are astronomical. And we are supposed to absorb a percentage of it, which we have done, but now the percentage of absorbent vs. the resources being drained has reached critical mass, the Education and Prison system are so closely tied together that WARDEN is also being used as the principles job description of MANY High Schools in border States.

The problem is not our “Holier than thou” use of the LAW.
The LAW is the only term those of us that believe a secured border is necessary can use without being called a “Racist”. LAW is color blind, LAW is the fabric of our society and the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT breaks the LAW every minute they are in America.
Ok now you guys can quit calling me a racist, start calling me a LAWYER. ( I am not sure which is worse though)

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Border patrol agent held at gunpoint
Officers fear Mexican military encounters will turn violent

A U.S. Border Patrol agent was held at gunpoint Sunday night by members of the Mexican military who had crossed the border into Arizona, but the soldiers returned to Mexico without incident when backup agents responded to assist.

Agents assigned to the Border Patrol station at Ajo, Ariz., said the Mexican soldiers crossed the international border in an isolated area about 100 miles southwest of Tucson and pointed rifles at the agent, who was not identified.

It was unclear what the soldiers were doing in the United States, but U.S. law enforcement authorities have long said that current and former Mexican military personnel have been hired to protect drug and migrant smugglers.

“Unfortunately, this sort of behavior by Mexican military personnel has been going on for years,” union Local 2544 of the National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) said on its Web page. “They are never held accountable, and the United States government will undoubtedly brush this off as another case of ‘Oh well, they didn’t know they were in the United States.’

“It is fortunate that this incident didn’t end in a very ugly gunfight,” said the local’s posting.

The NBPC represents all nonsupervisory personnel among the agency’s 16,000 agents.

Border Patrol spokesman Michael Friel did not return calls for comment Tuesday.

State Department spokeswoman Nicole Thompson said Tuesday that the department had no information on the incident, and referred further questions to the Border Patrol. “It is not an incident that we are aware of,” she said.

Um Pardon me, but I think this would constitute an armed incursion in ANY nation on earth, well except France.

Some folks seem to think we should just let this continue, they meant no harm it was strictly a misunderstanding…Bullshit! This was, and it has been an armed invasion of a nation and our politicians are too damn stupid to deal with it, the main reason they aren’t dealin with it is POLITICS it has nothing to do with what is right, it is “IF we do something we lose the Hispanic vote” then we have to find a job. OR and this is the best reason… “IF we do what needs to be done, it will be considered racism, and the media will help the la-raza folks”

Screw it, I am sick of the PCness of our politicians, our so-called Biased media and all of the whining, bleeding heart libtards (and at least one RINO) I am ready for the damn Rio Grande to run red with blood from the invaders….I have said it once if I have said a thousand times, WE NEED TO CONTROL OUR BORDERS. Right now WE don’t, the drug runners, the coyote’s and the Mexican Corrupt military/police control OUR border and for a nation as strong as WE are this is pathetic.

We have been nice, we have been compassionate, look what we have got for it. We got a prison system full of worthless ILLEGAL Immigrants kids, we got an education system DUMBED down to the point of a 3rd world nation because of the dual language learning because it’s offensive to people that only speak spanish, again due to the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT KIDS we call ANCHORS.

Call it a hate speech because honestly right now it is, I hate the fact that we as a nation can not control our borders because no one is standing up for what is right. Time to stand up or you will be run over. I call it like I see it and it’s FUCKING TIME the rest of our nation does too.

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Study finds 11% drop in illegal immigrants
Conservatives hail the report as proof Bush’s controversial policy of enforcement via workplace raids is working.

WASHINGTON — A report Wednesday indicating a marked decline in the number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. fueled a widening national debate over the Bush administration’s policy of immigration enforcement through aggressive workplace raids.

The largest such enforcement action was in May in Postville, Iowa, where federal immigration agents descended on a meatpacking plant and arrested nearly 400 workers later detained in a building used to house cattle.

The administration began aggressively enforcing workplace laws after Congress last year failed to pass an immigration overhaul. In the months since, thousands of workers have been arrested in scores of raids.

Conservatives have applauded the tactics, while critics have pointed to mistaken arrests of U.S. citizens, deaths of immigrants in detention and limited scrutiny of managers who recruit and hire them.

However, evidence that the strategy may have succeeded in reducing the number of illegal immigrants was presented in a report Wednesday by a group favoring tighter curbs on all forms of immigration.
The report by the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based think tank, says that the number of illegal immigrants fell about 11% between last August and May, from 12.5 million to 11.2 million.

The study was based on an analysis of census data and concludes that if that rate of decline is sustained, the number of illegal immigrants will be halved in five years.

Steve A. Camarota, the center’s research director, acknowledged that the economy played a role in the decline but said that several factors pointed to enforcement as key. For instance, the legal immigrant population continues to grow, while the fall-off in illegal immigrants began even before unemployment began rising.

“It seems that increased enforcement has played a significant role,” Camarota said.

Who would have thought actually enforcing the laws of the land would lead to a reduction in the crime the laws were designed to prevent? Not me heavens no, LMAO.

How about this, a two pronged attack.. Build the damned fence, shut down the ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION FLOOD all together and then discuss how to deal with the 12 to 30 million Illegals already here. UNTIL THE BORDER IS SEALED No Discussion at all.

BUSH IS a moron of galactic proportions him and his cronies have made a bundle off the illegal debacle, and they try to play it off like it’s a “Humane” issue.. NOT BUYING IT!

Mark my words, if BUSH doesn’t release Ramos and Campeon SOON, McCain will not win the white house. US Real CONSERVATIVES have a problem with hypocrisy.

With Obama we know were getting a racist/communist with appeasement tendencies, With McCain we think we are getting a “Republican” we are actually getting a knife in the back.

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