Comments on: Grafitti Vandals Getting Violent?

By: Robert

Robert — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:37:10 +0000

@ebolamunkee: Thanks for the correction, I didn’t catch that… but you got the meaning right? LOL

How can you defend this crap? did you look at the next post?
Graffiti vs art
Art is an expression of talent with permissions, graffiti is anything done without permission on a private/public blackboard.

By: ebolamunkee

ebolamunkee — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:14:21 +0000

You don’t realize that there is a big difference between a gangbanger and what is known as a graffiti writer. Gang graffiti is used to identify gang “territory” and no attempt at style or artistry is made. TRUE graffiti, sometimes referred to as hip hop graffiti, grew out of the urban youth culture of New York in the 1970’s and has been refined over the years into a complex art form. This second kind of graffiti is very very rarely connected with violence, and on the rare occasion that violence does occur, it is almost always between rival crews or individual writers, not against regular people who witness vandalism occurring. 99.99 percent of writers will simply run away if they are witnessed. I don’t know who this Garcia guy is, but he doesn’t represent the graffiti culture on this point. Yes, graffiti is vandalism, and yes, it’s illegal, but please don’t confuse a relatively benign group of vandals with violent gang members who will unhesitatingly attack innocent bystanders.

Also, one does not “asses” a situation, as this would imply the use of either wild donkeys or human posteriors.

By: American and Proud » Graffiti, Vandalism, Gangs or Art

American and Proud » Graffiti, Vandalism, Gangs or Art — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:43:28 +0000

[...] Recently we discussed graffiti, more specifically the up tick in violence between taggers, and gang-… [...]

By: American and Proud » Taggers, Gangs, Vandals or Art

American and Proud » Taggers, Gangs, Vandals or Art — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:11:41 +0000

[...] Recently we discussed graffiti, more specifically the up tick in violence between taggers, and gang bangers versus citizens that are reporting their actions. [...]

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:40:13 +0000

@Kateske: Ok I let this through because of how ridiculous it is… The people that have been attacked while tagging? WTF are you smoking?

Tagging/Defacing/Vandalizing property that does not belong to you is ok because you feel like doing it? Our education system is truly broken and parents have truly let our nation down if this is the way our youth think.

I can not fucking believe the comments from the folks supporting this type of shit *shakes head* but I guess they all Support Obama too… damn.

By: Kateske

Kateske — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:36:05 +0000

Wow, what about all the people who have been attacked whilst tagging? (Tagger stabbed in New Zealand, search google for plenty more examples) People who hate tagging can be violent too! Every human being is different. How bias and unfair just because it is not to your taste.

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:45:28 +0000

@Bloviating Zeppelin: Yeah I do BZ, the folks that honestly believe they have the right to mark on/destroy or otherwise deface public or private property because “they are expressing themselves” are going to run into someone like me who equally believes in “Self-Expression” or yourself who actually has a JOB arresting fucknozzles such as the taggers mentioned in the post.

These idiots have to ask themselves one question:
Can I do this in the middle of the day and not worry about who sees me do it? if you have to sneak around to do it, it probably is ILLEGAL, and could get your ass kicked too.

I go around my hood in broad daylight with a spray can, when I see a tag, I splotch it out.. I would rather look at a “Splotch” and the asshole tagger can’t admire his work.

So if they really want to confront an angry, able bodied, and well armed redneck..All they have to do is, look for the guy walking around his hood with a dog or two and a 2 way radio on his belt… That’s me, come say hi.

By: Bloviating Zeppelin

Bloviating Zeppelin — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:56:45 +0000

Robert: isn’t it interesting that David, Facedorateur, HammerTime and Chris all fail to distinguish the difference between property that belongs to THEM and property that belongs to others. Clearly, the result of recent mass public school education as they come from the camp that thinks “what’s mine is mine and what’s YOURS is mine and you lack the right to protect it or object to its desecration by ME.” More of the persons from the generation bereft of common sense, consideration, respect for others. Products OF, however, the falsehood that the world revolves around them, doing what one “feels” is proper, “no one can tell me NO,” “no one has authority over me” and “my esteem and what I WANT trumps all else.”

Property rights, possession of property, hard work to acquire same, respect for other people, these are, grandly, topics and concepts not beyond rational and standard human ken but, clearly, beyond THEIRS.

Bloviating Zeppelins Is talking about..You Feel It?

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:54:38 +0000

@Facedorateur: IF you are comparing the two you not only are a bitch but an ignorant one.
The difference is 4000 men and women died protecting your right to be as vocal as you are with your opinions. Whether they did it in a just war or a just cause now is not the issue, the issue is what they signed up to do they are doing… They were sent to do by an elected leader, taggers and gangbangers do it because they NEED leaders.

You are correct about the numbers thing 1 one 1 they run, 5 on 1 they are very brave.. That’s why I always have at least two clips… I am not that good of shot anymore.. LOL

Grafitti is a peaceful crime???? WTF? That’s what folks think, they are wrong. It is an intrusion to MY right to not to have to look at that shit and it cost me as a TAX PAYER money, it takes resources away from parasites.. oops I mean state aid services. So tagging is costing those like you to lose freebies??? how do you like tagging now?

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:44:25 +0000

Chris, Sorry man, I deleted your comment by accident.. please re-post if you can it was actually a decent question.

I read it and I was getting ready to respond and hit the wrong damn button.
I think the jist of it was you were making the difference between violent gang member taggers and just artist….

My response is the same, if it is ok with the community it is ok with me. IF it done without questions if it is done without permission it is a crime and IMO it is worthy of an ass whooping. Not life in prison or anything but a good ol fashioned ass kicking. followed by some community service cleaning it off the affected walls.